Hayden sees Iran, Mexico as top issues

In exit interview, CIA director also defends harsh methods

January 16, 2009|By Greg Miller | Greg Miller,Tribune Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON - Outgoing CIA Director Michael V. Hayden said yesterday that the most pressing issues facing his successor include Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapon and surging violence in Mexico - but not the war in Iraq.

Hayden also defended the agency's use of harsh interrogation methods and said he had advised the incoming administration against going too far in dismantling the agency's counterterrorism programs.

"These techniques worked," Hayden said of the agency's interrogation program during a farewell session with reporters who cover the CIA. "One needs to be very careful" about eliminating CIA authorities, he said, because "if you create barriers to doing things ... there's no wink, no nod, no secret handshake. We won't do it."

Hayden's spirited defense of the agency came on the same day that Eric H. Holder Jr., President-elect Barack Obama's nominee for attorney general, testified on Capitol Hill that an interrogation method used by the CIA and known as waterboarding amounted to torture.

Hayden is widely credited with restoring stability and morale during his more than two years as CIA director. But his ardent defense of the agency's activities might help explain why he was not asked by Obama to stay in the job.

Hayden is also tied to other Bush administration controversies. As the head of the National Security Agency after the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001, he was an architect of the warrantless wiretapping operation.

Hayden won a measure of vindication with the release of a court ruling yesterday that supported the Bush administration's right to compel U.S. telecommunications companies to cooperate with the eavesdropping effort.

"My reaction?" Hayden said, referring to the court ruling. "Duh."

Obama's nominee to serve as the next CIA director, Leon E. Panetta, is expected to rein in an array of agency activities, including its use of "enhanced" interrogation techniques.

Hayden noted that the agency stopped the use of waterboarding more than five years ago, but he argued that the CIA should not be bound by the same restrictive interrogation rules as the U.S. Army.

Responding to critics who contend that harsh interrogation methods produce faulty intelligence, Hayden said that interrogations of key al-Qaida figures accounted for the bulk of the United States' understanding of the terrorist network and led to a series of successful operations around the world.

"Do not allow others to say it didn't work," Hayden said. "It worked."

Hayden said the situation in Iraq has improved so much that the war there is no longer a major drain of agency resources or attention. The most pressing national security threat, he said, remains al-Qaida.

Because of missile strikes by CIA drones, the tribal belt of Pakistan "is neither safe nor a haven" for al-Qaida leadership, Hayden said. But he cited the failure to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden as among the chief disappointments of his tenure.

Iran's leaders are "getting close to a decision point" on its nuclear program, Hayden said, because the Islamic Republic is paying such a heavy diplomatic and financial cost for its efforts to stock-pile enriched uranium. That cost burden has grown with falling oil prices, Hayden said.

The outgoing CIA chief also sounded a new alarm about spiking drug violence in Mexico and indicated that U.S. intelligence officials have made new efforts to form counter-narcotics partnerships with the Mexican government.

Overall, Hayden said Panetta will inherit an agency that has made strides in hiring case officers from more diverse backgrounds and in expanding the number of employees fluent in Arabic and other critical languages.

Hayden indicated that he has plans to write and speak but said he would have welcomed a chance to stay at the CIA. "I certainly would have considered [staying] if asked," he said.

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