Excerpts Of Clinton Deposition

March 14, 1998

On Jan. 17, President Clinton testified under oath for six hours in the sexual misconduct suit filed against him by Paula Jones. The deposition was taken in the Washington office of Clinton's attorney, Robert Bennett, and placed under seal by presiding Judge Susan Webber Wright. A transcript of most of the president's testimony was made public yesterday for the first time, when it was included in court papers filed by Jones' lawyers.

Following are excerpts from the Clinton deposition. All of thquestions posed to the president are by Jones' lawyers, unless otherwise indicated.

About Kathleen Willey

Q: Mr. Clinton, do you know a woman named Kathleen Willey?


Q: When did you meet her for the first time?

CLINTON: I believe in the presidential campaign of 1992, iVirginia.

Q: She was married to a man named Edward E. Willey Jr. beforhe passed away, correct?

CLINTON: That's right.

Q: And she and her husband donated money to your presidentiacampaign in 1992, correct?

CLINTON: That's correct.

Q: And Kathleen Willey and her husband also did somfund-raising work for your campaign, correct?

CLINTON: I believe that's right. I'm not sure, but I think they did.

Q: If she were to describe herself as a Democratic Party activistwould you disagree with that characterization of her?

CLINTON: No, I believe she actually was working very closelwith Governor Wilder in Virginia in 1992 at the time I was running for president.

Q: Do you recall that after the election you personally calleKathleen Willey, and, to thank her for helping you to be elected President?

CLINTON: No, I don't remember that.

Q: After you became president, she got a job working in thWhite House, correct?

CLINTON: I believe she worked in the social office. I seem tremember she started as a volunteer. I'm not sure, but I think she was a volunteer.

Q: All right, sir. Do you recall that she was living in RichmondVa., at that time and commuting all the way to Washington?

CLINTON: Yeah, I knew that she and Ed lived in Richmond.

Q: Do you recall approximately when she was working in thWhite House as a volunteer?

CLINTON: No. I don't even - I don't know how many days a weeshe worked and what hours she worked.

Q: Have you read any part of the deposition testimony given bKathleen Willey in this case?

CLINTON: No, but I have seen a summary of it.

Q: All right, sir. Let me hand you what has been markeDeposition Exhibit 3. I would like to direct your attention to subpart (b), which is about halfway down on the first page. This I will represent to you is a copy of Section 2244 and Section 2245 of Title 18 of the United States Code.

ROBERT BENNETT (Clinton lawyer): Excuse me, Your Honor. (( must object. This is a civil section harassment case, and he has handed the president a criminal statute.


Q: Mr. President, did Kathleen Willey ever give you permission ttouch her breasts?

CLINTON: No, I never asked, and I never did.

Q: Did she ever give you permission to kiss her on the lips?


Q: Did you ever attempt to kiss her on the lips?


Q: Did you ever attempt to touch her breasts?


Q: Did Kathleen Willey ever give you permission to take her hanand place it on your genitals?

CLINTON: No, she didn't.

Q: Did you at any time have any form of sexual relations witKathleen Willey?

CLINTON: No, I didn't.

Q: Do you recall, sir, that you met with Kathleen Willey at or neathe time of her husband's death?

CLINTON: The meeting I recall occurred before her husband'death. She had requested, my recollection is that she requested several times to come in to see me. She wanted to come in and see me, and she kept asking to do that.

BENNETT: Mr. President, just answer his questions, please, sir.

CLINTON: And my - and she did come in to see me.

Q: Do you recall whether that particular meeting you jusdescribed was before or after her husband's death?

CLINTON: That was before her husband's death.

Q: All right, sir. What, if anything, do you recall being said in thameeting?

CLINTON: Well, my recollection is that she, that originally shwanted to come in to talk about moving out of the social office where she was not happy, but when she came in - that's what I had been told the meeting was about. But when she came in, she said that, and she also said that she probably needed a paying job, but she was, she was very upset that day. I remember this very well, and she didn't stay long, but she was quite agitated, and that was the only meeting I had had with her, and she said that she was faced, she was afraid that they, she'd have to contribute to the family income, and she wanted a job.

Q: All right, sir. If she testified that that meeting occurred aabout three o'clock in the afternoon, would you have any different recollection?

CLINTON: I don't have - I don't remember what time of day ioccurred. I just remember she came in and stayed a few minutes and talked to me about her problems.

Q: Was anyone else present in the room while you were talkinto her.

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