The talk circuit:The ways of the talk-show circuit are new...

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April 22, 1991

The talk circuit:

The ways of the talk-show circuit are new to Jeanne White. The other day she said she had yet to become acclimated to them. "I'm on the circuit with Kitty Kelley and Ali McGraw, and it's just not me," said the mother of Ryan White, the teen-ager from Indiana who died of acquired immune deficiency syndrome last year after becoming a national symbol of courage.

The book she has been promoting on such venues as ABC's "Good Morning America" and the Phil Donahue and Joan Rivers talk shows is "Ryan White: My Own Story," written mostly by Ryan and finished by Ann Marie Cunningham.

Last night, White and Ryan were honored with the Humanitarian Leadership Award given by Funders Concerned About AIDS, a national association of foundations, at the Council on Foundations' annual conference in Chicago.

Gregory Shine had lost hope of ever again seeing his deceased father's 1961 high school class ring, stolen from his Coral Springs, Fla., home in a burglary July 27.

He didn't count on the scavenging instincts of Coral Springs utilities worker Gregory Cerasani.

On April 11, Cerasani was cleaning out the sewers a couple of blocks from the scene of the crime. Sifting through the sand he scooped out of the manhole, Cerasani said, he found two rings.

One was a silver 1986 Coral Springs High School model with Gregory Shine's name inscribed inside. Cerasani called the two Shines in the telephone book and left a message with the one whose phone wasn't disconnected. He said he had found the 1986 ring, but did not mention the other one.

Shine returned the call last Tuesday. "By the way," Shine asked just before hanging up, "did you happen to find a 1961 gold class ring?"

Cerasani had not thought the two rings belonged together.

The two rings had apparently been dumped in a toilet or drain, and became lodged in the sewer line. The jet hose used by Cerasani to clean out the lines broke them free.

His find amazed Shine, who wasn't nearly so concerned about his own ring, or the camera equipment taken in the burglary, as his father's ring from Southwest High School in Miami. Frank Shine was killed in a 1979 auto accident, and his wife had given Gregory Shine the ring as a memento in 1985.

Singer visits Katmandu:

Bob Seger's finally gone to Katmandu.

The Michigan-born rock singer first expressed a longing to visit Nepal's capital in his 1976 hit song "Katmandu": "I think I'm goin' to Katmandu, that's really, really where I'm goin' to. If I ever get outta here, that's what I'm gonna do."

Seger, 45, wrote in yesterday's Detroit Free Press that he finally visited Katmandu in February, to watch the World Special Olympics.

He said he met a fan he didn't know he had: King Birendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev. He said the king asked him, "What made you write that song, anyway?"

Seger replied that he was "always fascinated by exotic places."

Seger said Katmandu, nestled in the Himalayas between India and China, was "a very mysterious and beautiful place in a lot of ways, like another planet for me."

Warren Beatty can breathe a sigh of relief. At the last minute, his phone conversations were edited out of Madonna's new movie, "Truth or Dare."

In an interview with the Advocate, a gay magazine published in Los Angeles, Madonna expressed herself on gay men, Michael Jackson, the music industry and why she cut some of her phone calls with Beatty out of the upcoming documentary about her.

"There were phone conversations I thought were really moving and touching and revealing, but Warren didn't know we were recording. It wasn't fair," she said.

"Plus, it's a federal offense," she added.

Madonna said she'd "like to completely redo" Michael Jackson's image, "and I also want to get him out of those buckly boots and stuff.

"What I want him to do is go to New York and hang out for a week with the House of Extravaganza [a group of drag queens]. They could give him a new style."

Much of the interview is taken up with talk -- in sometimes salty language -- about sex, gay and straight. And Madonna speaks at length about her affinity for gay men, including her brother. She said she felt like an outcast as a teen-ager until she discovered gay dance clubs.

"I just felt at home. I had a whole new sense of myself. . . . I started spending a lot of time with dancers and almost every male dancer that I knew was gay. Then I went through another kind of feeling inadequate because I was constantly falling in love with gay men."

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